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Defining and Fostering Health

When I talk about fat rights, the main argument is it isn’t healthy. This is also where most conversations stop, because we have deeply ingrained into our culture that fat bodies are inherently unhealthy. We are taught fat bodies are a sign of disease, no matter how many healthy behaviors we choose to do. If we still live in a fat body, it’s often believed we just haven’t tried hard enough.

Many believe to define health you must define what health looks like, too, which is often a thin, young, able-bodied individual. This denies old people, fat people, mentally ill people, people with chronic illness or disease and people with disabilities from being perceived to be healthy, when it could be due to situations they often have no control over.

I believe this really boils down to how we frame health in our society. Specifically, what we believe a healthy body looks like and why it has so much social value. Our culture dictates the ideal person is good looking and thin, implying this is the standard all people should be judged. We value health in a way that is far deeper than just believing it should be important to people and are better if they are health conscious. Studies even show if fat people are trying to lose weight they will earn more respect from their peers than if they are not. We demonize unhealthy behaviors and certain foods, and expect people who fit this ideal to conform to those healthy behaviors so we will consider them socially acceptable.

When we frame health in this fashion we also ignore the fact that health is not accessible to all people, particularly people who have a lower socioeconomic status. Because health is not as dependent on body size as we are lead to believe and fat people can be healthy, to actually achieve a healthy society we must address the social and structural inequalities that limit people’s ability to be healthy.

We must invest in the fresh foods movement, making healthy foods more available and affordable to all people. Make access to preventative healthcare a huge priority as communities show better health than those where healthcare is not affordable, obtainable, or accessible to everyone. Support the creation of safe, clean places for people to be physically active, and access to indoor swimming pools, rooms and halls where one and all, able bodied or not can take part. The city of Ferndale is an amazing example of what a community with these features should look like, but it still can be improved.

These issues must be addressed alongside wage disparities between all classes, fat or thin, offering equal opportunities to enjoy healthy living. Even with all of these changes health should never be used to define someone’s worth.

For further reading:

danceswithfat.wordpress.com

fatheffalump.wordpress.com/

www.definatalie.com

createwithspirit.squarespace.com/

Jim McLuckie

5:08 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

You have some solid conclusions that a lot of people could agree with and appreciate it. It's absurd to me that healthy, fresh, natural food is more expensive and less readily available. How has it come to this? And your final sentence is right on, and is really the essence of your message.

However, I think you might reach a wider audience if you trimmed some of the fat. Eye-roll-inducing puns intended.

I take the most issue with the second paragraph, which appears to be your thesis statement. You make a very bold and wide-reaching claim that brings numerous unnecessary factors into the argument. Old, handicapped, and chronically ill people have no place in this argument.

If we try to define what healthy looks like, are we still only talking about health or are we now talking about beauty? You go on to say that, "Our culture dictates the ideal person is good looking and thin," so that tells me that you're talking about beauty. That's also the second time you use the word "thin." You would benefit greatly by using the phrase "not overweight," because that is more accurate and less polarizing. You don't have to be thin to be not fat. But I would agree with the general sentiment that our society puts forth this image of what women especially should look like, or what constitutes as beauty, but can we also agree that it is a fact that beauty is subjective?

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Jim McLuckie

5:08 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Instead of defining what health looks like, why don't we define what health thinks and does? We would benefit greatly here to acknowledge that there is as much of a mental component to health as there is physical. Physical is pretty cut and dry: exercise. Move your body. Lift weights. Walk. Run. Jog. Move. We could agree that so long as these acts do not negatively affect you (say, you can't run because you'll injure your knee), they are healthy actions. Health also eats food and drinks fluids that provide nutrients that the body requires to function. Health takes in the amount of carbohydrates that the body needs. This is what health does.

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Jim McLuckie

5:09 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

So what is not healthy? Not healthy is the area outside of healthy. Not healthy is the in excess of health. Not healthy is consuming more carbohydrates than the body requires to function, which in turn is stored as fat. Not healthy is eating when you're not hungry. Not healthy is when you're eating because you're sad, or eating just because it's there, or eating foods on a regular basis that provide little to no nutritional value to the body. Not healthy is eating because you feel bad about the way you look, so you're either punishing yourself or trying to dull the sadness. These are not healthy actions. This is where the mental aspect of health comes into play. Whether it's an eating disorder, a compulsion, an addiction to food, these are all functions of the brain, and unfortunately, these are the kinds of issues that are more difficult to address. But these issues are not impossible to address. It takes personal strength, the knowledge to guide you, the support of your peers, the personal strength, the personal strength, and the personal strength, to overcome these not healthy thoughts and actions. Individual responsibility and accountability.

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Amanda Levitt

10:48 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Old people, people who are disabled and the chronically ill do have a place in what we consider to be healthy when we as a society use health to consider someone to be morally sound or not. All three of the groups that you deem 'unnecessary' are continually shunned from our society in numerous ways due to them not being considered in ideal health. This is more than their appearance but the way health is constructed in society. All people have the right to live in society free of their worth being placed on their body or health. I'm not talking about what are healthy behaviors or what we idealize as beautiful but the way all bodies are suppose to look. This is also gender neutral and is not just specific to women.

Also I don't use the word 'overweight' (or any 'o' words that are medicalized forms of body size) because that term is not only used to imply pathology but also begs the question, over what weight? The words I use are not done without thought or whim. I use the word fat and thin to describe two different body types, it is only divisive if we continue to understand fat with its negative connotations intact, instead of with its actual meaning as a descriptive term used to define a body size.

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Kim Saks

3:08 pm on Friday, September 23, 2011

Sadly, many medical professionals do tend to define health based on standardized notions of beauty. If they followed the research and stopped confusing correlation with causation, they'd be less likely to think a fat person is unhealthy simply because of their body size. I urge you to look at the links I posted below as a preliminary starting point for your research into the matter.

Jim McLuckie

5:11 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Thought experiment: from the day I was born, if I were fed healthy, nutritious food, then continued to do so as I grew up, moderating the amount of unhealthy food or offsetting it with exercise, if I made these healthy decisions, and barring any other disease or disorder which causes weight gain, would I ever get fat? Scientifically speaking, I don't think I could. I may be wrong here, I'm not a scientist, but from my understanding, I couldn't. Does that mean *I* am healthy? It means I made healthy decisions, nothing more.

Are fat people unhealthy only in their being fat? No, they've just made unhealthy choices. Why shouldn't we discourage unhealthy behaviors? Why shouldn't we encourage healthy choices and healthy living? We don't have to demonize, we don't have to hate, we don't have to shun. We need to understand and support.

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Amanda Levitt

10:26 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Everyones body size is 50-75% dependent upon genetics. See this study, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14610529

Assuming that everyone who eats well and moves their body will be thin ignores this and the fact that many fat people participate in those same actions but still remain fat (and are healthy). I have no problem with people encouraging healthy behavior as long as it is accessible to all people. Actively discouraging unhealthy behaviors again ignores that those healthy behaviors are not available to everyone. We should be focusing on making it more available and that would improve overall health in our society.

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Mark Blackwell

6:51 am on Thursday, September 22, 2011

That seems an odd statement: "I have no issue with people encouraging healthy behavior as long as it is accessible to all people."

You're making the assumption that people who discourage unhealthy behaviors are somehow responsible for the fact that there are disadvantaged people who are forced to drink Mountain Dew and eat McDonalds. Like, if we all can't eat healthy ... no one does.

I'd rather think that was just careless wording, than believe that's actually what you mean to say. Because the latter is absurd.

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Kim Saks

3:06 pm on Friday, September 23, 2011

Actually, scientifically speaking, you most certainly could gain weight. As Amanda said below, body size is actually based more on genetics than anything else. Behaviors have some input, but by and large fat people are not fat because of unhealthy behaviors. I'd urge you to look at this article that has found this to be true elsewhere in nature: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/12/10/what-fat-animals-tell-us-about-human-obesity.html

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Jim McLuckie

1:29 am on Saturday, September 24, 2011

Kim: Great article! Definitely interesting stuff. It's that kind of curiosity that progresses science. However, I think you're taking liberties in saying "by and large, fat people are not fat because of unhealthy behaviors." Do you have evidence to back that up, because that conclusion does not necessarily follow from Amanda's article nor your article. Looking at genetics, if it's encoded in the genes for each individual to have a certain body size and fat percentage, then individuals can still become "overweight" (meaning, over the weight that you're designed to hold) and "underweight."

Jim McLuckie

5:16 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Sorry about the splitting of the messages...apparently Patch wasn't made for long-winded essay comments!

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Terry Parris Jr.

8:33 pm on Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Sorry Jim about the limiting space thing! But excellent comment(s).

Amanda Levitt

1:35 pm on Thursday, September 22, 2011

Mark, my point was that when most of us encourage healthy behaviors we ignore that not everyone is able to partake in those behaviors. This is not about personal choices people make, or the food they consume, this is about how we believe all people no matter their class status should be healthy without providing a structure for them to achieve it.

This is also not about me telling people that no one should be healthy because it isn't accessible to everyone. That is a pretty big leap from my actual statement.

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Mark Blackwell

3:21 pm on Friday, September 23, 2011

Those are two different subjects: 1) People should strive to eat healthy 2) We should be a sharing society.

It just seemed like your wording suggested we couldn't have one conversation with including the other. What tripped me up was your "as long as" proviso.

Nic Steele

9:25 am on Friday, September 23, 2011

I think that the concept that countries have different levels of obesity based on resources, etc. somewhat contradicts the idea that people are "supposed to be fat". Obesity rates in industrialized countries have tripled since 1980. I can agree with the people who are not able to live healthy lives, because they are sick, etc. As a previously obese person, I can't agree with the concept that many of the women whose photos are in the blog are not actually healthy in the body although they are in the mind.
I think that accepting one's body is important. I lost most of my weight alone in my house, because I was ashamed to run outside or go to the gym. If people feel more comfortable with their bodies, they may not be embarrassed to exercise. The following is a pretty strong, and I want to clarify that is not a statement, but a sincere question. I do not have the facts to back this up: Is there a small community of fat activists who are looking for statistics to fit their theses, because they have grown emotional resentment about being "fat" or against "thin" people?

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Amanda Levitt

11:11 am on Friday, September 23, 2011

This is two separate questions, first to believe we are resentful against thin ignores this is about the pathologizing of fat bodies and the resulting prejudice. This is also a derailing tactic often used when a marginalized group starts to fight back against the prejudice they face. I’m not ignorant of the fact fat people can be unhealthy, but many people are when they ignore thin people can be unhealthy too for the same reasons.

We are often asked if we have read every study that addresses health and body size, this is also another form of derailing when talking about these issues. The truth is there are no studies that show fat causes ill health. The reason we believe fat is inherently unhealthy is because often times we don’t understand the difference between causation and correlation.

While fat has been shown to have correlation with ill health, this doesn’t address how fat bodies can be healthy if we focus on wellness not weight loss or the way someone’s social location can change their health outcome. It also doesn’t address losing weight for ‘health’ ignores that 95% of weight loss attempts fail within 1-3 years after they are started, after 5 years the 5% that succeed on average only keep off 10% of their body mass. It also ignores how yo-yo dieting makes people in the end heavier and unhealthier than if they keep a stable body weight. I’m going to be discussing a health movement by the name of Health at Every Size™ in an upcoming blog.

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Amanda Levitt

11:34 am on Friday, September 23, 2011

Also, the reason that as a society we are heavier is a multi-faceted issue, one that cannot be blamed on ill health alone. First and foremost the way that we track body size by the use of BMI standards that are not only incorrect in labeling health, since health should be considered different for every individual regardless of body size, it also was changed in the late 1999s. BMI rates were lowered so that millions of Americans overnight were considered to be ‘overweight’ or ‘obese.’ It is direct contradiction to the fact that people who are considered ‘overweight’ on average have a lower mortality rate than people in any other group.

In the last 20 years we have also had a huge rise of the diet industry which last year made profits of around 60 billion dollars, to put that into perspective we spent 50 billion on college tuition last year as well. This is 60 billion dollars being put into an industry that has a 95% failure rate and makes people heavier / unhealthier in the long run.

This rate is also impacted by the fact that we have more older people than any other time in history due to improved medicine, we gain weight as we age, and food is more readily available to the masses, the majority of which is processed food.

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Kim Saks

3:01 pm on Friday, September 23, 2011

A few things:
1. Different countries have different levels of obesity (and even different levels in same countries over a period of time) because the definition of obestiy is constantly changing. The diet industry has lobbied the medical industry to broaden the categories of obesity over time so they would have more customers. When we spend more on diets in this country than on higher education (true fact), it's not surprising that they get such a voice.
2. The statistics about health are largely borne out not by fat people, but by people considered to be thin by societal and medical standards. Many researchers are coming to the conclusion that the existence of a certain amount of fat in a body does not mean that the person is unhealthy.

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Kim Saks

3:04 pm on Friday, September 23, 2011

It is not surprising given the money the diet industry makes that we do not hear as much about the research which finds that fat does not equal ill. (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/i-take-space/201103/stigma-is-big-business) Further, it is often not the eating and exercising behavior of people that determines body size and composition. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/12/10/what-fat-animals-tell-us-about-human-obesity.html) That's why many medical professionals and researchers are urging people to change their views on fat. (http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2011/01/03/con-sharma-obesity.html#socialcomments-submit)

Nic Steele

1:50 pm on Thursday, October 13, 2011

http://truthinchange.com/2011/10/real-reality-the-scary-truth-and-scandal/ I just found this about a woman who lost 313 lbs on Extreme Makeover Weight Loss edition and almost died.

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